advance notice: spiderman RULES!!!!!
i just thought i would get a jump on this weeks coming white board discussion and just tell you my opinion on spiderman.
plain and simple, HE RULES!!!
he is just a regular guy (as regular as you can be with a genius level IQ and a bite from a radioactive spider) that has to deal with as much real life stuff as with super villain stuff. Bruce Wayne/Batman is a GA-ZILLIONAIRE so he doesn’t really need to worry about money or anything like that. Superman/Clark Kent doesn’t need to eat, he never has to worry about a sunburn, or traffic. Captain America, well, he has a government job, we all know how cushy those are. The X-MEN, the live in some old guys mansion, they don’t pay rent, their job IS to be a super hero. Iron Man/Tony Stark is another one of those GA-ZILLIONAIRES that doesn’t really have to worry about money or anything, fighting crime is like a hobby for him, like golf or something….
i totally identify with spiderman, he is just a normal guy with problems that i can identify with, plus how cool would it be to walk on walls, swing from rooftops and be able to shut some one up from across the room with a bit of webbing over their mouth!!!
June 13th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I must point out an oversight in your logic here. While Bruce Wayne/Batman may be rich, he is the only super hero without “super powers.” Peter Parker got bit by a spider (sick!) and now he can do the web thing and climb up walls. After suffering a horrifying, traumatic experience as a child and losing both of his parents, Bruce Wayne trained and conditioned himself to be a totally awesome, crime-fighting machine. While I don’t deny that Peter Parker is a regular guy who stumbled across the super hero, I don’t think we can overlook the fact that Batman is, in a sense, also just an Average Joe.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
i don’t think its an oversight. if Bruce Wayne were an “average joe” then immediately following his parents being gunned down in cold blood (by the joker i might add, although that is before he became the joker) he would have been shipped off to bounce around the foster system until he became a poorly adjusted 18 year old who would probably have ended up becoming a cog in the american prison system. He would be in and out of jail committing petty crimes, and not so petty crimes, till WHAM!!!!! spiderman comes in and busts his @$$.
so, what have we learned? that dead mommy and daddy’s billions allowed the poor little emotionally scarred Bruce to spend his life dedicated to the pursuit of revenge, which, thanks to good training turned into a search for justice. my logic is not flawed, you are the one who has overlooked the vital component.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
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June 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
You’re saying, had little Bruce not been born into a wealthy family, he wouldn’t have been Batman. Very interesting, however I don’t think we can assume foster care would be the only option. I notice that you fail to address the real issue here, and that is the FACT that Batman has no super powers. Batman doesn’t have a Spidey sense or X-ray vision. If you prick him, he does bleed. But then he gets really angry and inflicts pain and suffering. But, you see my point here. The money helps, but he puts more on the line in terms of injury or death.
Agree to disagree. We all know that Jack Bauer would still give them something to worry about.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I will concede the fact that Bruce Wayne has no super powers. But will point out that he doesn’t need them because he can BUY anything that exists, and if it doesn’t exist he can pay to have it invented. Below is a list to all of the equipment he has, and you as a woman must admit that if he is able to carry around all that stuff he has to have SOME kind of super power…
Batman’s Equipment
As for jack bauer, i am calling shenanigans on that one. he was never introduced to the debate, he isn’t considered a “super hero” so again i say SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I’m not calling Jack Bauer into this discussion. I am just saying he’s fearless and if he fought Batman, well then I’d buy tickets to that movie, too.
For the record: There’s no special power to carry around a whole lot of stuff with you. Though I will admit that for a few years when I was really little, I was convinced that my grandmother had that Mary Poppins bag. I mean, don’t get me wrong. It take talent to pack that many accessories, but it’s not a “power.”
So Bruce Wayne has money. He’s well connected. Jealous? And heck yes he has the best toys. But that’s because he needs them to make up for the fact that he has no super powers. Plus, his villans are trickier than the other villans. They’re all completely insane! He’s put Joker in Arkham so many times, he deserves that Bat Copter!
June 16th, 2008 at 8:59 am
ok, two separate rebuttals on this one.
first, jana. No, i am not jealous of bruce wayne, yes it would be nice to have money, so much so that i could build/buy anything i ever needed to fight crime would be nice but then i would probably be guilted into “helping” people…and yes batman has WAY cool villains. i was always bummed out about spiderman’s villains, for the most part. venom was cool and so was carnage, but the rest fo them were kind of, well, lets say disappointing. i really wish he fought cooler bad guys.
second, brad. WHO THE HECK IS THAT “SUPERHERO”????????
June 16th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Batman wasn’t “guilted” into superhero work. It was revenge based. He had to issue payback for the tragic deaths of his parents. Revenge! Grrrr. It’s dark, it’s brooding, it’s… Batman.
More so than the disapointment in Spiderman villains, can we address the third movie quickly? I didn’t realize there was a wussy musical element to the story. It was a train wreck. I’m sure Batman would lend Spiderman a cool villain if it will erase the memory of that third movie.
Is Brad referring to GI Joe?
June 16th, 2008 at 10:18 am
I was referring to self guilt. like “oh i have so much money and i should really make the world a better place” type of guilt. yes he did start off with revenge, and eventually it came to be a quest for justice and greater welfare for the common people of gotham.
as far as the third spiderman movie…i was just as disappointed as everyone else, maybe more so being such a huge fan. there were too many villains in the movie, even at 2 hours and 19 minutes there was not enough time to really flesh out all the story lines then had going. don’t even get me started on the music scene and the john travolta-like staying alive walk on the sidewalk where peter parker oggled all the girls he walked by. it was a let down on SO many levels….
and as far as brad’s average joe hero, no, it is definitely NOT GI Joe…
June 16th, 2008 at 10:30 am
OK, as if Spiderman the musical wasn’t disturbing enough, now we have Brad’s hero? Who’s this guy’s sidekick? Uncle Joey?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:31 am
apparently he had the suit fall from the sky in front of him, along with a manual he promptly LOST…yeah, this guy IS the typical american.
can i move to canada? i bet their spiderman doesn’t sing and dance, he probably just gives a good old fashion whoopin’ to the sub-standard bad guys he fights, ay?
June 16th, 2008 at 11:52 am
I hope he washed that suit before he wore it. Who knows where it’s been if it fell from the sky.
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